Forum Thread: Disrespect

Phoenix is right. Why you worry about those negative kudos.Be happy with the comments by OTW ,Ciuffy ,C2H ,C|H,phoenix and others.There are many experts here to help you. But one thing ,before making a post google your questions. If you fail then make a post on Null byte.

If I may, as a couple of things have been troubling me..

As pheonix and the others have stated, a lot of the time it appears to me that you lack the effort to try research things yourself. Multiple occasions have I played this game where I would literally google your question as you word it, and 90% of the time, I have found something of use.

Pheonix wrote an article asking how to delete a draft write up, something which has no relevance, and received kudos for it, surely that is an indicator that kudos is unimportant.

Im sure you are a fantastic person, and you're eager to try these things, which is incredible, but to me near to every one of your questions is essentially asking how can I reach prison in the quickest time possible, and that is what will happen if you suppress your knowledge down to just clicking execute on an attack. Out of curiosity, these tools that you ask for help with and implemented (<=good), how many have you actually looked at the scripts for? And do you read man pages?

Despite being told yourself to research prior to submitting, you often have the nerve to tell others to google prior to posting, often ended with a triple period (...) which to me just seems condescending and disrespectful in itself. And to top it all off, when someone is kind enough to help you to a two part question, its very rare there is a thank you, and more commonly you state; "Wheres my answer to the second part I posted?...".

As everyone has said buddy, no disrespect is intended from this, and I hope you stick around, if English is not your first language, im sure no one would complain if you write what you can in English, then paraphrase in your native language if you struggle with wording. Im sure someone would be kind enough to translate so we can all offer input as we see fit.

Are you here for Kudos or to legitimately learn Information Security?
I don't recall this being a a ask Jeeves forum.
I am personally starting to feel like this is a romper room in training.
I would assume Phoenix gives good answers to rhetorical questions and his rep is going up, perhaps.
I would hope this is a cycle WHT is going thru and will peak again soon.
I digress because I fail to understand the model we are using now and the cause and effect from said model.

P.S. How many more posts like this will be made about feelings, due respect oh and code of conduct?

Honestly, I've never downvoted you, and the fact that I sometimes don't answer is just that I can't keep up with it, but would love to go in depth with many of your questions.

However, one thing you should never forget: if somebody else thinks for you, you never learn. Always try to ask as less as possibile. Asking many times, even though comprehensible and appreciated, may be interpreted as not willing to study. I guess that in your case, you just want to be part of the community, which is great.

But please, don't attack other users if things don't turn well with you. Those who are brave enough to answer and take the responsibility of the info they share should never be trated like that.

Also, an advice to all the users out there: Internet had untold rules radicated in modern society. Always do your best to have a correct grammar and clean writing, as it is very easy to misunderstand sometimes.

Nailed it. Ciuffy.

I have to agree with Ciuffy, as well.

It is important to me and Null Byte that newbies feel safe here, but I also believe that one needs to learn how to learn. The vast majority of your questions could be answered by a cursory review of Google searches. You seem to think that these people here on Null Byte have nothing better to do that answer your questions. With almost 2 million people passing through Null Byte every month, if each of them asked as many questions as you, it would be overwhelming. I think you have been treated very well considering how many questions you have asked and their nature.

If you EVER expect to become a hacker, you will need to study and learn on your own. Questions here should be a last resort when no other avenue is available. Almost every question I have seen of your could have been answered by querying Google and reading the results.

Kudos doesn't matter. At all.

It's simply a reward system to make you feel good, just like how you 'earn credits' for each day that you log in.

Similar to video game achievements; it's just to help bring people back and keep people playing, that's all.

If you feel like someone has legitimately disrespected you, then I'm certain someone here will defend you. However, we're not here to babysit you, that's just tedious and draining.

We're here for the same reasons as you, to learn, contribute, help the community grow as a whole. But to continually answer the exact same questions? Questions that can easily be solved with literally a few seconds on Google or even using the search bar at the top? I mean, this question that you asked here is a prime example.

OTW already wrote an article on choosing a WiFi adapter here, yet people still ask the exact same question time and time again.

All it took for me to find those articles with a wealth of information was typing "wifi adapter cheap" into the search bar up the top.

So I kind of feel it's understandable that we get tired of answering the exact same question over and over when the person asking is putting in no effort into finding the answer themselves.

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And that is your answer, given from 4 of the longest serving members, the admin, one of the most active (i like you phoenix, you're gonna go far kid), and now from the worlds most consistent lurker, (I'll start contributing one of these days).

Null-byte is unique in that not only is there access to a tutor that would normally for a variety of reasons, be incredibly difficult to gain access to study under, a literal wealth of information, and a fairly supportive community; It is literally a place that encorages you to reach towards your full potential. Yes theres support if you require it, but you should of at least attempted to find the answer your self, WHY? because you'll learn more from finding it yourself.

I have a slightly different perspective than some people on here. I understand some people are more sensitive than others and there's nothing wrong with that. Sensitive pple are sweet. Also, I agree with PP that hackers have big egos because they're smart. I think that hackers expect you to meet a certain standard and sorta prove yourself. Let's face it...attractive pple are a dime a dozen but true intelligence is near unheard of lol. I think that the pple of null byte just want the community to maintain a certain standard and not necessarily beaning mean spirited. Hackers self police themselves, and not many other communities or industries do that and I think it's a good thing because it makes you better. No disrespect to anyone. It's a good thing to express the way you feel so everyone sorta knows where you're coming from.

"I think that hackers expect you to meet a certain standard and sorta prove yourself."

That's it 100%. Its like - what you know? who you know? how you know? where you go? I never saw you b4, leave my world now.